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Showing posts with label class 3. Show all posts

Tuesday, September 14, 2010

ADR class 3

knowing how you want to practice

what do you do when you have no merit to the case.
1. if you can survive summary judgment,
2. you still may be sanctioned

what do you do when you have no merit and you want to help someone?
1. look for other factors, such as sympathy or equities
2. sometimes people will settle things even when they don't have to
because people want to seem decent and kind

international rules for arbitration in NYS for situations where
1. scope of discovery: arbitration has less discovery than
litigation, and still is more than typical discovery in many other
coutnries
2. arbitrators are bound to enforce contract and are not allowed to
use general factors such as sympathies and equities
3. don't make assumptions about rules of operation

corp lawyers usually draft contracts in large firms - they're non litigators.
and they draft provisions that are often cut-and-paste.
provisions are often not suited for the people involved.

the paper:
- just google ideas
- who do i interview? get ideas from the articles you read
- talk to mollen after you've done some work on the paper
- no puffery!!

benefits to publicity
generally talk about the lack of confidentiality as a negative,
but publicity can also help to bring discovery, dismissal of
charges, brought witness forward, etc. or publicity can bring
forth capital and support. or it can get the other party to
be more willing to negotiate. but once publicity is out there,
it's out there.

after ADR as the strictest approach, there's arbitration.
parties agree on a neutral, either in a contractual clause or
when a dispute arises. you have the freedom to direct
your needs at arbitration. since you have right to trial,
usually arbitration is not binding.

in addition to arbitration there's private tribunals,
i.e. "rent a judge" -- you agree to hire someone
privately (usually a retired judge) and have a trial before
this party. you can provide that this private judge award
can be appealed, etc. why would you want this when
the tax payers give you a court system?

why use a 20 year employee? they know the company
better than anybody else.

Thursday, September 9, 2010

IP class 3

recap.
elements of trade secret claim
- protectable subject matter
   - legal criteria: information that is secret and has value by virtue of its secrecy
   - evidentiary factors: fourtek, restatement of torts s. 757 cmt (b)

- reasonable effort to maintain secrecy
  - a stand alone element or merely circumstantial evidence?

- misappropriation
  - by improper means
    - economic v. moral theories of propriety (see posner)
    - defenses: proper means, eg reverse engineering
  - by breach of a confidential relationship
    - express in contract or implied by circustances
    - problem of employee mobility and right to earn a livelihood 

next series of classes - patents.

divided into four topics:
- patentability
- infringement/ rights of patentees
- defenses
- remedies

patentability.

five areas
1. subject matter (class 3)
2. enablement
3. utility
4. novelty (class 4)
5. nonobviousness (class 4)

Subject matter - 35 USC s. 101 inventions patentable
Whoever invents or discovers any new and useful process, machine, 
manufacture, or composition of matter, or any new and useful improvement 
 thereof, may obtain a patent therefor, subject to the conditions 
and requirements of this title.

there's a lot of criteria in this stat text for what a patent can cover, and we
can infer what is not patentable:
- things not new
- things not useful
- things not a process, machine, etc
- things not an improvement upon

process patents
product patents

what is not a process, machine, manufacture or composition of matter?

E = MC2 ... einstein couldn't patent the formula. why?
the laws of nature, physical phenomena, and abstract ideas are not
patentable. but this is not a simple distinction.

business methods? bilski v. kappos
machine or transformation test.
by definition, something that is new is something that we didn't know
before. we have the understanding that technology moves faster than
law and we need to craft our law broadly to encourage technological
growth.

hedging. a patent on the process would give an exclusive right, and
perhaps the court didn't allow this patent because "no one man should
have all that power"... and perhaps competition that exists in this
particular industry will incentive the industry innovators sufficiently
without patents.

living things?
- diamond v. chakrabarty: is the process that chakabarty developed
   patentable?
  even if we have the argument "life is different and we can't treat it
  like other processes", that's an argument that the courts aren't competent
  to decide. what are the implications of this?
  1. this is an important question that congress must weigh in on
  2.

- parke davis co v. HK mulford co
  is this process patentable?
  adrenaline itself exists in all mammals naturally, but it takes a lot of
  work to purify and isolate this and make it useful

in order to be patentable,

brenner v. manson: "a patent is not a hunting license"
- CCPA: "where a claimed process produces a known product it is not
  necessary to show utility for the product, so long as the product is
  not alleged to be detrimental to the public interest.

 Fortas: "until the process claim has been reduced to production
 of a product shown to be useful, the metes and bounds of that
 monopoly are not capable of precise delineation. it may engross
 a vast, unknown, and perhaps unknowable area. such a patent may
 confer power to block off whole areas of scientific development,
 without compensating benefits to the public."

- Harlan, dissenting: "the abstractly logical choice for researchers
  after the court's ruling seems to me to be to maintain secrecy until
  a product use can be discovered. as to discouraging the search by
  others for product uses, ... the price paid for any patent is that
  research on other uses or improvements may be hampered because
  the original patentee will reap much of the reward."

35 USC s. 112:

office action.

2. an overview of patent laws
a. requirements for patentability
1. subject matter
2. novelty
3. useful
4. nontrivial
5. description

novelty test: determines whether the claimed invention is unpatentable because it was made before, sold more than a year before a patent application was filed, or otherwise disqualified by prior use or knowledge.

utility is not much of an obstacle.

Tuesday, September 7, 2010

commercial arbitration class 3

neutral v. designated arbitrator. 
who makes the decision that the arbitrator might not serve?
usually the tribunal.

every once in a while, a party may want to get rid of an
arbitrator.

when is this likely to happen?
in AAA, the parties chose the neutral from a selection.

more than one arbitrator, all neutral, in securities. and someone
may trump up a minor infraction to get rid of someone.

disclosure isn't limited just to arbitrators

arbitrators should be even more careful than judges to keep clear of the
parties. but posner said that the arbitrators are chosen in light of their
familiarity and knowlegde of an area, so the more specialized the more
likely an arbitrator has dealt with a party in the past.

arbitration process.
statement of claims -- can be letters, or something more or less formal,
usually more discriptive than court pleadings. the core issue is set forth
the issue of the pleading. sometimes its better to do it in a textual way.
and sometimes its not.
after pleadings are exchanged, then there's pre-hearing conferences
to have the arbitrators do whatever is necessary to facilitate discovery.
except in very complex cases, a main difference between arbitration and
court is that there's not depositions/ interrogatories, etc but just an
exchange of documents at this point. and if parties can't agree, they
go to the arbitrator to order exchange. occasionally, there's a need for docs
from third parties and arbitration courts as well as arbitration attorneys have
subpoena power.
order of preclusion -- issue preclusion is not unusual and is a pretty effective
sanction.

AAA is non-profit. increasingly there's for profit arbitration, such as JAMS.
there's many retired judges that are on the roster of neutrals, and they
tend to command pretty high fees. then there's FINRA - which gets a lot of
flack, but is regulated by the SEC which wants investors to know they can get
a fair shake from the finra arbitrators.

difficulty for FINRA - suitability claims (monday morning quarterbacking)
which are often brought under securities statutes
brokers must report (what?) and forms that contain this information are
public. so if someone wants the

the state AG has to be allowed to enter the dispute. all of this is a strong
incentive for brokers to *not* settle cases.

arbitration of statutory claims.

see peripheries of arbitration materials:
- anytime a contract delegates out certain types of determinations,
loosely, you can call it arbitration: a neutral is brought in to make
some kind of determinations.
- earlier forms of arbitration usually fell into ethnic sects that
wanted to preserve certain customs against what might have been
perceived as a hostile legal environment.

what happens in post-award proceedings in regards to the award?


arbitration in the past: business disputes based in common law,
usually breach of contract where arbitrators would sort out any
factual issues and apply the laws agreed to and reach a result.
arbitrators were often appointed by agreement of the managers and
unions to regulate/bargain between employers and employees. the
fact a laborer could go to an arbitrator and get a judgment for the
employers to do something was considered a quid pro quo right to
strike. the commercial arbitor awards are not precedent and have
nothing to do with stare decisis. this is part of why people feel that
arbitration has more opportunities for equity.

fraud, tort claims... not so much. these are typically merchantile
disputes. the fact that arbitrators aren't lawyers doesn't matter too much
because they know the custom/usage of the industry and they know
business such as to understand how to read a contract, etc.

instead, over past 25 years, there's an explosion to formal arbitration,
mainly lead by SCOTUS.

wilko v. swann - a customer arbitrating is waiving the fundamental statutory
protections because it's essentially remnant of the ouster of the court.
adhesion contracts aren't by nature unenforceable unless there's something
wrong with the contract. the arbitrator can still be held accountable if
it manifests disregards - more than mere legal or factual error.

so wilko is pro-arbitration but it doesn't mean that actions under the
securities laws are mandatory securities arbitration. and implicit to this
is that certain statutory rights are public and for the protection of
every citizen (every citizen has an interest in preventing employers from
discriminating, in keeping brokers from misconduct, etc). the dissent says
that the failure to observe the law is grounds to vacate the law. file this case
away and see later if it turns out to be true.

at this time, the courts had to be sure that arbitrators would adhere to laws.

why do you think that SCOTUS picked shirk?
1. international company, because many international companies have
sovereignty issues
2. a major corporation and it knows what games its playing

for next week:
- wright case

Monday, August 30, 2010

biz org class 3

best way to max shareholder profits is to take a communitarian approach: consider the needs of the community.

dodge v. ford - what ford says on the stand makes good biz sense: most leaders probably believe that the best way to max growth is to take care of the employees, creditors, etc. ford said i don't care about shareholders -- which was the problem because the purpose of the corp is to max shareholder profits.

but from wrigley, we know that the executives don't have to be tunneled visioned. they should also consider non-shareholder interests when it also does what's best for shareholders (communitarian).

there is a direct link to helping the community and the shareholder.

see p. 279:
if shelensky was unhappy with wrigley operations, why didn't he just sell his shares? there are several aspects which define corps, and one fund characteristic is that interests are fully transferable and you can sell if unhappy

the point of a corp is not just to make money for shareholders but to *maximize* the growth. the shareholder won't want to sell because any money made is going to reflect lowered value of the shares, when the company can be more profitable and shelensky could sell for more.

could shelensky have prevailed? the court wanted him to be more specific in his complaint (the court calls his assertion "a mere conclusion") and to have given more concrete proof that nighttime games would have created more profit for the shareholders.

suppose you represent shelensky and called wrigley as a witness. what would you ask him/ what strategy would you adopt in questioning? other baseball companies have played night games and installed lights and the shareholders have made much more money, where mr. wrigley, the majority controlling shareholder at 80%, has denied the installation.

do we look at objective or subjective reality? the ford court looked at subjective state of mind of henry ford. the shelensky court instead looks at the objective operations in the way that the company might disturb the neighbors and the potential effect this could have on shareholders.

see p. 278, which illustrates the approach of objective reality and the controlling shareholder's state of mind.

when does a corporation exist?


how do we pierce the corporate veil?

what's the reason that barrett is not liable? when a promoter contracts with a 3d party on behalf of a corp not yet formed, who is liable? the corp wasn't de jure

walkowsky and sea-land were corporations. they were de jure (organized under laws of a jurisdiction and able to operate as a corporate entity) but they were organized for non-corporate intentions.

if the promoter forms the corporation later, can the corporation become a party to a contract? yes

can the initial agent avoid liability?
if the promoter later forms the corp, can s/he avoid liability? no
absent an agreement to the contrary, an agent for a not yet formed corp is liable and can avoid liability only if the other party to the contract agrees.

who is liable if the corp is never formed? what is the issue in so-gulf marine? the agent/promoter is liable if the corp is never formed.

agency principle. the court estops camcraft from saying that it can't do business with so-gulf because the fact that so-gulf's legal status (the fact it isn't a corp) doesn't effect camcraft's legal status.

the court has two doctrines to mitigate the potential liability:
1. corp by estoppel, where the court will treat a firm as though it was a corp because the parties dealing with the firm (1) thought it was a corp all along and (2) one party will earn a windfall if the firm is not treated as a corp.
2. de facto corp doctrine: instead of looking at the postiion of the party dealing with the corp, the court looks at the position of the promoters/organizers. the court may treat a firm not properly incorp as though it were a de jure corp if the organizers (1) in good faith tried to incorp, (2) had a legal right to inc and (3) acted as a corp.

did barrett make a good faith effort to incorporate?

walcovsky v. carlton.

proRo: class 3 - alton logan and model rules amendments


alton logan

from the ABA:
Alton Logan has been in prison 26 years for
the shotgun murder of Lloyd Wickliffe, a
crime [committed by Andrew Wilson].
Wilson’s lawyers faced a classic ethical dilemma:
What may a lawyer do when a client admits
to a crime for which another has been charged?

Wilson’s lawyers concluded that client confidentiality
bound them to silence, but they obtained their client’s
consent to reveal the information after his death.
Wilson’s lawyers also drew up an affidavit that confirmed
that they “obtained information through privileged
sources that a man named Alton Logan who
was charged in the fatal shooting of Lloyd Wickliffe
. . . is in fact not responsible for that shooting.” They
placed the affidavit in a sealed envelope in a metal
box in 1982, believing that revelation at a later date
would be more credible if supported by the affidavit.
They released the affidavit after their client’s death [in 2008].

The ABA is considering a draft proposal to amend
Rule 1.6 of the Model Rules of Professional Conduct
to allow disclosure in such situations. In this column
we review the draft proposal, and discuss whether
there should be a new exception to Model Rule 1.6’s
duty of client confidentiality to prevent the wrongful
incarceration of another. The purpose of this column
is both to analyze the issue and to encourage discussion
and comments from readers.

Draft Proposal
Although newly amended Rule 3.8 clarifies the
obligations of prosecutors regarding wrongful conviction,
nothing has yet been done either to require
or allow disclosure of confidential information by
defense counsel to prevent wrongful incarceration.
In response to this dilemma, Criminal Justice Section
Ethics, Gideon & Professionalism Committee
cochairs Bruce Green and Ellen Yaroshevsky have
drafted the following proposal to amend Rule 1.6:

(c) A lawyer may reveal information relating
to the representation of a deceased client to the
extent the lawyer reasonably believes necessary
to prevent or rectify the wrongful conviction
of another.

The draft proposes amending Comment [15] to
Model Rule 1.6 as follows:
Paragraph (c) recognizes the important societal
interest in preventing and rectifying wrongful
convictions, including both convictions of
factually innocent individuals and convictions
resulting from procedural improprieties. The
interests underlying the confidentiality obligation
are usually paramount in the case of living
clients because clients will not be as forthcoming
if there is a risk that their confidences will
be disclosed during their lifetimes. However,
the societal interest in disclosure may be paramount
when the client is deceased, particularly
when the client’s reputation and estate will not
be prejudiced by disclosure. In exercising discretion
under Paragraph (c), a lawyer should
consider the prior wishes of the deceased client
to the extent they are known, the likelihood
that a wrongful conviction will occur and can
be prevented or that a wrongful conviction
occurred and can be rectified by disclosure,
the extent of the ongoing harm caused by the
wrongful conviction, and the extent to which
disclosure will prejudice interests important
to the deceased client, including the deceased
client’s reputation and the financial interests of
the deceased client’s estate.

In evaluating the recommendation, it is important
to note some of its features and limitations:
First, disclosure under the proposal would be discretionary.
Second, the proposed amendment restrains the
lawyer’s discretion by limiting disclosure to situations
when the client is deceased. Further, the
Comment indicates that in exercising discretion the
lawyer should consider the prior wishes of the deceased
client and the extent to which disclosure will
prejudice interests important to the deceased client,
including the deceased client’s reputation and the financial
interests of the deceased client’s estate.

The preconditions for disclosure appear to narrow the
proposed exception to confidentiality so much that
the exception could rarely be used, especially when
one considers that disclosure would be discouraged
even when there is only reputational harm to a deceased
client.

Finally, amending the ethical confidentiality rule
in a jurisdiction does not resolve evidentiary issues
that could bar the information being used in court
proceedings. As discussed in the following section,
attorney-client privilege has been used in several
jurisdictions to prevent lawyers from revealing information
that could prevent the wrongful incarceration
of another. A confidentiality exception would
allow revelation to the prosecution, the press, and
lawyers representing the person the information
exonerates. Privilege becomes an issue when the
lawyer seeks to testify in court about what the lawyer
knows that may exonerate the accused. In addition,
limitations on the use of alternate perpetrator
evidence and hearsay would usually exclude this
type of testimony.

Massachusetts has already amended its ethics
rules to provide that “[a] lawyer may reveal . . . such
information . . . to prevent the wrongful execution
or incarceration of another.” (Mass. R. Prof’l Conduct
1.6(b)(1).) Comment [9A] explains that this
exception to confidentiality permits “a lawyer to
reveal confidential information in the specific situation
where such information discloses that an innocent
person has been convicted of a crime and has
been sentenced to imprisonment or execution.” The
Comment’s explanation that the exception applies
specifically when “an innocent person has been convicted
of a crime and has been sentenced to imprisonment
or execution” may be viewed as an example
of when the exception applies or as a limitation on
using the exception. Rather than clarifying the exception,
the Comment appears to create an ambiguity
in determining when the exception applies. We
could find no reported instances of a lawyer making
disclosure under this rule.

Attorney-Client Privilege
There are several well-documented examples of
confidential information being offered to exonerate
someone accused of a crime. In State v. Macumber,
544 P.2d 1084 (Ariz. 1976), William Macumber was
charged with murder. At Macumber’s trial, two attorneys
attempted to testify that their deceased client
had confessed to the crime. The trial court refused
to admit the evidence reasoning that attorney-client
privilege survived the death of a client and that disclosure
could only be made with the consent of the
client or someone authorized by law to speak for the
client. On appeal, the Arizona Supreme Court reversed
on other grounds, but upheld the trial court’s
decision to exclude the confession, holding that in
the absence of consent from the individual holding
the privilege, the privilege could be asserted by the
trial court itself to prevent disclosure. (Id. at 1086.)
Macumber illustrates the distinction between the
legal ethics rule of client confidentiality and the evidentiary
rule of attorney-client privilege.
Both the
trial court and the Arizona Supreme Court refused to
permit the testimony from the lawyers on attorneyclient
privilege grounds even though the lawyers
had obtained an informal bar ethics opinion stating
that they were ethically permitted to reveal the
confidential information. (Id. at 1097 (Holohan, J.,
concurring).)

Other courts have also relied on attorney-client
privilege to prevent lawyers from testifying about
client statements exonerating someone charged with
a crime. (See, e.g., State v. Doster, 284 S.E.2d 218,
220 (S.C. 1981) (applying attorney-client privilege
to prevent lawyer from testifying about deceased
client’s statements that may have exonerated defendant);
State v. Valdez, 618 P.2d 1234, 1236 (N.M.
1980) (holding attorney-client privilege prevented
lawyer from testifying that a former client confessed
to robbery).)
In Morales v. Portunondo, 154 F.Supp.2d 706
(S.D.N.Y. 2001), though, the court permitted a lawyer
to disclose that his deceased client had confessed
to a murder for which another man had been convicted.
The court found the information covered
by attorney-client privilege, but ruled that in a habeas
action due process required admission of the
evidence to guarantee fundamental fairness to the
defendant. (Id. at 730-31.) In reaching its decision,
the Morales court relied on Chambers v. Mississippi,
410 U.S. 284, 302-03 (1973), which used a due process
analysis in holding that “the hearsay rule may
not be applied mechanistically to defeat the ends of
justice” to exclude statements of another admitting
to a crime for which the defendant is on trial.
These cases demonstrate that any change in a
state’s ethics rules to create an exception to confidentiality
to prevent wrongful incarceration needs to
be supplemented by changes in the law of attorneyattorney
client privilege if the confidential information
obtained from a client is to be used in a court
proceeding. Still, an exception to client confidentiality
would permit a lawyer to reveal the information
to the accused’s defense counsel, the prosecutor, and
the press. Such revelations might, in turn, lead to
other admissible evidence or information that could
prevent a wrongful conviction, incarceration, or
execution.
 
Should There Be an Exception?

Let’s consider some of the pros and cons of such a
proposal.
Against the exception. Confidentiality, a key aspect
of the attorney-client relationship, is essential
to building trust between client and lawyer. Confidentiality
encourages lawyers to seek and clients to
provide full information about the representation.
Confidentiality, it is argued, serves both clients and
society since open communication enables the lawyer
to represent the client effectively and gives the
lawyer the opportunity to counsel the client against
wrongful behavior. Exceptions to confidentiality
arguably erode both lawyer and client incentives to
seek and provide information, and thus threaten to
undermine the quality of legal representation and
the good it provides to society.

A separate argument against the exception that is
the focus of this column is that such an exception
is unlikely in reality to provide much benefit to the
wrongfully accused or convicted.
 If a lawyer were to reveal a deceased client’s confession
to a crime for which another had been convicted, there
are a number of serious evidentiary barriers to the
admission of such testimony in a court proceeding,
including attorney-client privilege, the hearsay rule,
and the alternate perpetrator doctrine. 

  • The confession was not made under oath and there was no opportunity either for cross-examination or to observe the client’s demeanor. 
  • If the confession was made to a lawyer in the belief that it was protected by confidentialityand attorney-client privilege, it would also not be an admission against interest. 
In short, such a confession may carry little weight
even if it were not barred by evidence law.

For the exception. One argument for such an
exception is that ethical confidentiality rules have
always recognized exceptions. Is one more, rather
narrow, exception likely to have a significant marginal
impact on the flow of information from client
to lawyer or the resulting quality of representation?
Some currently recognized exceptions, such as those
pertaining to future crime or harm, seem much more
likely to be triggered and thus more likely to impede
the full and frank communication confidentiality is
designed to facilitate than a wrongful conviction
exception.

In response to the argument that this exception
is unlikely to produce much benefit for someone
wrongly charged or convicted due to various evidentiary
barriers to admitting the client’s confession in
court, one can argue that revelation of the confession
may produce benefits other than its use as evidence
in a court proceeding. The revelation might help a
wrongfully charged or convicted person attract public
support, lead to other admissible evidence, or
simply prompt the prosecution to reexamine a case.
Perhaps the most appealing argument for such an
exception is that it helps address the need to remedy
the wrongful convictions that have attained
such prominence in today’s legal and popular culture.
These DNA exonerations illustrate the need for
more safeguards to ensure that the innocent are not
convicted and incarcerated. One such response is
the recent amendment to Model Rule 3.8 addressing
a prosecutor’s post-conviction obligations of
disclosure and investigation. An additional response
aimed at defense counsel is a wrongful incarceration
exception. Failure to recognize such an exception
is likely to attract public attention and undermine
public confidence both in lawyers and our criminal
justice system.

Finally, recognition of such an exception is consistent
with a recent trend to ease confidentiality
restrictions when doing so allows lawyers to serve
an important public purpose. The current version of
Mode Rule 1.6, for example, recognizes more exceptions
than did the original version of Model Rule
1.6. Many states have enacted exceptions more generous
than those currently found in the Model Rules.
Another example is Model Rule 1.13(c)’s “reporting
out” exception to confidentiality in organizational
representation the ABA adopted in response to the
Enron scandal and other corporate wrongdoing. This
trend expands a lawyer’s duty to act cooperatively in
preventing and remedying wrongdoing, emphasizing
the lawyer’s role as an officer of the court rather
than the lawyer’s role as a zealous advocate of the
client.
 
Conclusion
The issue of wrongful conviction is a serious one. Studies
of wrongful conviction reveal that both prosecutors
and defense counsel often contribute to wrongful
convictions. It would seem appropriate then, to look to
both prosecutors and defense counsel to help remedy
the problem. The current draft, very narrowly drawn
and discretionary rather than mandatory, seems unobjectionable.
Our view is that a more expansive exception
may possibly be justified, without the death and
reputational harm limits found in the current proposal.
If an exception to client confidentiality to prevent
or remedy wrongful convictions is to be enacted, a
robust exchange of views and discussion of the arguments
for or against it is warranted.

To that end,
we urge you to share your views with the cochairs
of the Ethics, Gideon & Professionalism Committee
of the Criminal Justice Section. Professors Bruce
Green (bgreen@law.fordham.edu) and Ellen Yaroshevsky
(yaroshef@yu.edu).

proRo: problem

You are a solo practitioner in New York. You mainly represent individual clients in personal injury, domestic relations, and estate matters. Some of your friend have found that a great way to get new clients is to visit Internet chat rooms and have casual conversations with people who need legal advice. You have started visiting chat rooms also, partly in the hopes of getting new clients and partly because you like helping people in need (public good, and all that).

Two or three evenings a week, you sign in to one of several Internet chat rooms. Your screen name is "GoPats11" (you are a New England Patriots fan and think that Rex Ryan may well be the devil). Sometimes you visit the Accident and Injuries Chat Room, where accident victims share their stories and grievances. This chat room gives participants the option to share their e-mail addresses with other participants. You have always disclosed your e-mail address.

Two months ago, the chat room added a "legal hour" on Thursday evenings to enable accident victims to chat with lawyers. To reach the screen for the legal hour, a user must first click through a screen on which the sponsor of the chat room has posted the following notice:

"This chat room is for informational purposes only. Participating in this chat room does not establish an attorney-client relationship. This is a free service. You do not need to pay any subscription or make payments of any kind to participate in this chat room. If you agree to these terms, click the 'I agree' button. You will not be able to proceed to the legal hour screen unless you click the 'I agree' button."

About a month ago, you started logging on to the legal hour as a lawyer. Each Thursday night, you and the two other lawyers in the chat room were deluged with legal questions. Most of the questions were very general in nature, and you and the two other lawyers answered them in general terms. However, a few weeks ago one question (from "EyesOnFire," who did not disclose his or her e-mail address) was quite specific:

EyesOnFire: "I live in Queens. Five years ago, I bought a can of Slickster hair spray. When I pressed the button on top, the pressurized can exploded. The spray and some of the metal spewed all over the place, some at my face. Something got in both of my eyes. I went to the doctor and he rinsed my eyes and gave me some treatments. I didn't need to go into the hospital, and the treatments ended within six months. My health insurance covered my medical expenses. A year later, I thought the whole thing was over, but in the last year, my sight has been failing. The doctors think that although they got out all the metal, something in the chemicals must have caused slow, long-term deterioration in both eyes. They think I will go blind. Can I sue someone?"

You did not want to give EyesOnFire any false hope, so you wrote back:

GoPats11: "EyesOnFire, I am sorry to say that you won't be able to sue anyone. In New York, the statute of limitations for tort cases is only three years. Since this accident took place five years ago and you knew then that you had been injured, you would have had to bring any lawsuit several years ago. Unfortunately, the law imposes these sometimes artificial barriers to a fair recovery. I wish that I could be more encouraging."

The week after you had this conversation, you stumbled across an article that explained that California has an unusually long statute of limitations for products liability cases. Therefore, if EyesOnFire's hairspray was manufactured in California, and if the SOL applied to a suit against the manufacturer regardless of where the injury occurred, EyesOnFire might still have a viable claim. EyesOnFire has not logged into the chat room since that night, so you haven't been able to correct or clarify the information you provided.

Questions:

1. Are you in potential trouble?
2. Should you be at risk of liability for your comments in the chat room? If so, is this one of those 'no good deed goes unpunished' situations?